User talk:Avma

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Welcome to Gramps! We hope you will contribute much and well. You will probably want to read the help pages. Again, welcome and have fun! Sam888 (talk) 03:01, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Translation of user manual

Hi, I've added Hebrew to the language template and created the default index, navigation and copywright templates for you translate to Hebrew. Any questions please ask? Sam888 (talk)

Also added a Hebrew category for Documentation.

Translation of the user manual

Hi Sam,

Now that I'm done translation the GUI, I'm planning on doing the wiki next (that is if I'll be able to figure it out ;-) )... Any idea how to make the page RTL? Also on the global wiki, translation happens in media wiki where they have a 'translate' tab showing; English (original text) and target language side by side, which i do not see here. am i doing something wrong?

My regards Avi ---

Thanks for translating the Gramps program GUI.
To make the Gramps Wiki Mediawiki install understand RTL (eg: multilingual) and to enable the side by side translation option you see on mediawiki it looks like I'll need to possibly do a number of things:
  • Install the MediaWiki_Language_Extension_Bundle which includes the Translate & UniversalLanguageSelector extensions as they now requires MediaWiki >= 1.32.0!
Which means that I would need to
  • Upgrade this wiki from the LTS(Long term support) version(1.31.3 supported until June 2021) to the Stable version (1.33.1 supported until June 2020) at least or I should wait until the next (LTS version 1.35.x is released June 2020 and supported until June 2023)
The other option is to:
  • Keep the current Mediawiki version and find an older version of the extensions and attempt to make that work.(which from a quick look around at the mailing list is not really recommended
Not sure when I'll be able to do any of this but I'll decide after researching this a bit more.
In the mean time current translators have made copies of the existing English pages and then translated them which sorry is not ideal for keeping the translations synchronized.
Sam888 (talk) 02:51, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
I just checked and you accidentally copied the wrong page contents over here so I've copied the correct content for that page from here
Ok, I believe That you where attempting to translate the contents of the following page, so I've moved your partial translation a new Hebrew page

In this case, perhaps it will be better to wait with the Hebrew translation at the moment, since without the right-to-left support, sentences looks really weird, especially when there are Latin characters or symbols in the sentence that should remain as is. What say you?

Sorry to hear that it does not look right. Found another page on mediwiki)about Directionality_support that mentions using a template to display the text correctly, so I created the suggested template(called Rtl) exmaple using this is below, does this look right to you?:


Sure does!

So just encapsulate the Hebrew text with 
template in the user manual because when the new user manual rolls over the old with link to new incorrectly Daleathan (talk)

Please see the template itself https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/Template:Man_version that shows:

  • To provide the current Gramps version release number for any page that has inter-wiki links and is not within the indexed chapters of the user manual.

New translations of pages

Hi thanks for the translation. If you would so kindly also add the the Language template to the English version of page if it does not exist when you add a new language page for example on Addon:Fix Capitalization of Given Names , thank you CallMeDave (talk) 09:25, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

--avma (talk) 14:37, 8 July 2025 (UTC) sure, will do....
About to mention that myself. Also be-careful as on the GEDCOM\he page you linked the language template to UI-Style instead! And I'll leave the most recent page you created in /he so you can add the missing language template to the English version. Daleathan (talk) 09:17, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

language bar template

please keep the existing language bar template separate and make sure the order of the templates on the page are the same so the user manual pdf can be generated. CallMeDave (talk)

Please be careful the RTLPageStart/End templates are ok, just don't incorporate the Lanaguage template as mentioned by CallmeDave. For highlights you can use the existing {-{man menu| )-) template as such hello like used on the user manual index page. Daleathan (talk)

--- --avma (talk) 09:47, 16 July 2025 (UTC) Sure, I'll adjust accordingly

Images

Please be careful to not replace English images with other language images. I have reverted back to the English version. Thanks for everything you are doing. Patsy B Lefebre (talk)

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Server is very slow lately, sometimes it takes several minutes to refresh and save translations/changes or recognizing He images that I uploaded. Your comment was noted.--avma (talk) 07:03, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

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