Talk:5.2 Addons

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There appear to be AddOns missing from the Wiki‎ User:Bamaustin(talk 23:31, 11 November 2019)

Just spotted this list! I made my own along with other Gramps related stuff see my user page for links to the two subpages.
* User:Gioto/addons-source (can be moved/merged or deleted as required )
* Other Gramps addons not in addon-source but listed on Github (can be moved/merged or deleted as required )
* Add pages from User:Matt#Contributions: table of addons if needed
* See this page Addon:Rule expansions for the filters probably needs to be renamed as a page to something like "Addons:Filter_Rules" as a catch all page?
--Gioto (talk) 06:41, 17 June 2020/Update: 22 March 2022 (UTC)
  • SharedPostgreSQL - This database add-on is a variation of the existing PostgreSQL add-on which allows to store an arbitrary number of family trees, rather than just a single one, in a Postgres database.
  • S3 media uploader - This add-on provides a command-line tool to upload media files to Amazon S3 or compatible object storage. It uses the file MD5 checksum as object key, avoiding storing duplicated files twice and ensuring files are always up to date.

Not listed

The items that follow are listed in

Type Name Description Download
Exporter Prolog Export [2][3] Exports data into a Prolog fact format. Data is in Unicode (utf-8) ExportProlog.addon.tgz
Gramplet Family Overview [4] Gramplet showing an overview of events for a family Overview.addon.tgz
Gramplet Person Overview [5] Gramplet showing an overview of events for a person Overview.addon.tgz
Report AncestorFill [6][7][8] Report on the filling of the tree
menu "Reports/Text Reports/AncestorFill Report"
Report Timeline Pedigree Web Report [9] creates webpage showing a pedigree with birthday relation
menu "Reports/Web Reports/Timeline Pedigree Report..."

Listed in git but not wiki

The items that follow are listed in the GIT library but not in the Wiki

Description Download
Check place titles AnnouncementFeature Requests: 9907code CheckPlaceTitles.addon.tgz
Deterministic ID - Tool for testing. "There is a small add-on called 'Deterministic ID' which changes and resets the ID generation algorithm from a combination of date/random to a simple counter, starting at zero. This makes handles easier to read, and you can infer the order of handle creation from the handle number during debugging." DetId.addon.tgz
Gramplet for detecting and assigning faces FaceDetection.addon.tgz
Addon:Lxml_Gramplet - Group of addons:
  • lxml Gramplet - Gramplet for testing lxml and XSLT
  • etree Gramplet - Gramplet for testing etree with Gramps XML
PhpGedView - Download a GEDCOM file from a phpGedView server. This plugin uses the phpGedView CGI GEDCOM Access Protocol v?.? to retrieve the GEDCOM file from the webserver. PhpGedView.addon.tgz
Rebuilds Gramps Types RebuildTypes.addon.tgz
Group of 6 tools:

??? Not sure exactly what they do ??

Display references for a Source SourceReferences.addon.tgz
Surname Mapping - Gramplet for editing the grouping of surnames SurnameMappingGramplet.addon.tgz
Wordle Gramplet - Gramplet used to make word clouds with WordleGramplet.addon.tgz

Check if need to be moved to Addon: namespace?


download from plugin manager

  • ...

manual install

need to check

Obsolete - Code no longer available or ever released

integrated into Gramps

Newly added but not on wiki

Not quite an addon

Bare urls - let's hide them?

Do we really need a column that shows the name of the download that possibly infrequently used (do we have statistics?) or can we just show a download icon? I'll just point you to this Wikipedia:Bare_URLs for reasons. --Gioto (talk) 06:41, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

The download column is often useful because of the collaborative nature of Gramps. People tweaking Gramplets often need to get code snippets when building their own experiments or to restore original code when a tweak goes astray. (Removing & restoring via Plugin Manager is a more radical step.)
Since the name of the add-on and the code need not bear resemblance to one another, it is easier to find the right example code from here than surfing the User plugins folder or GitHub.
GitHub might be the most appropriate tool for programmers managing code but setting up a Forking environment has an intimidating learning curve. This lets people dip a toe in coding instead of throwing them in the deep end.
Bamaustin (talk) 07:25, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the response, understood keep the column; the next part of my question is that instead of showing an unfriendly bare URL to users lets hide the link behind an icon. If no one opposes that's what I'll do. --Gioto (talk) 23:27, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
That should be ok, but consider that a user seeing the download icon may just do that and wonder what to do next, the icon should also not have a word on it due to translations so maybe a download icon that has an arrow pointing down in black and white? The bare url in this case discourages non technical people for downloading manually I believe. Thanks for the improvements you've both made. --Sam888 (talk) 00:13, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Right, didn't think about that, I'll test icon on this page if I find a suitable one that's not appealing to normal user how about a cogwheel or construction symbol? --Gioto (talk) 03:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Gears tend to be used for preferences/settings. How about a Python (.py) document in a compressing clamp or in a cardboard carton? The typical old icons for .tgz archives used a (clunky) c-clamp and the newer ones have a cardboard carton with a logo on the front indicating the contents. (By the way, it is a bare archive filename rather than a URL in the add-on table.)

Bamaustin (talk) 14:47, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

I found a tgz icon but it was not free for use. FYI the Download pages in other languages using
Download link.png

which probably needs to change to an icon with no word. --Gioto (talk) 23:58, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

>> By the way, it is a bare archive filename rather than a URL in the add-on table.)

Yes I'm aware, the idea is to get rid of the name which really serves no purpose for the normal user and to make the table more compact. --Gioto (talk) 00:05, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Agreed that a text-based download icon isn't appropriate for an international tool.

(As a personal observation of no consequence... I think downloads used to be a distinction that had importance when data transfer rates were such a big issue. We're downloading content with every click when we browse. We just store it in a temp space & discard. And it still is an issue for bulky downloads... like the Gramps installers. But these 'downloads' are smaller than most of the images. That isn't a consideration for what should be done... just an evolution that I find to be a curiosity.)

Tango SVGs are available from Wikimedia Commons. It would be a simple matter to layer a Python logo dropping into the carton with any of the free SVG editors.

Python logo

Package / carton

Bamaustin (talk) 00:50, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

I've discovered that there is a serious flaw in hiding the filename. When you click on these links in Chrome, the browser does a silent download. The only feedback is a progress bar In the border of the titlebar. A file is added to the downloads but the user does not know what filename to seek among the other files. If the filename isn't displayed in the table, you can't just open a download folder window next to the table and match the download.

If you found an option to collapse the column like you can hide table rows, that might be a viable option. However, Sam has replied that information hiding wasn't acceptable in other places as it created a conflict for the printable page feature. (I had suggested collapsing the Download section for each OS. My thinking was that the instructions not related to the user's OS were distracting... well, to be brutally blunt, the Linux section was been horrifyingly convoluted to the typical Win/MacOS user downloading a simple GUI-based installer. It does not make a good first impression.)

Possible Automated generation of report/addons etc

Could possibly be revived , looks like it was abandoned 5 years ago, but something like this could cover all builtin reports/tool/plugins etc.. and third party addons?

in response to [11]

What do you think?

Daleathan (talk) 23:04, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

All pages with prefix "Addon:"

Patsy B Lefebre (talk) 22:13, 22 February 2022 (UTC)