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* [https://github.com/cdhorn/CardView CardView folder] in Christopher Horn's GitHub Repository
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* [https://github.com/cdhorn/CardView/blob/master/README.md CardView README.md] on GitHub
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*[[Gramps_Glossary#active_person|Active Person]] Gramps Glossary definition
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:[https://sourceforge.net/p/gramps/mailman/message/36617953/ The Group As name override]  
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:: Responded via email to the idea of using this template for the user manual. TLDR not in the current form needs to expand on printing automatically. <br />
 
Sam888 ([[User talk:Sam888|talk]]) 02:17, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 
  
The auto-expand for print concern might be addressed with a change to the print.css stylesheet.
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== Download not working ==
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Hi On the [https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/PseudonymTree.gramps PseudonymTree.gramps] when I attempt to download [https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/File:GrampsPseudonymTree(02Feb2020). gz File:GrampsPseudonymTree(02Feb2020).gz] I only get an empty file and checking the wiki filesystem only shows a zero-byte file? Please upload a new version or send to me, or possibly convert it to a "zip" file for the windows users?  Also, a lot of what you have done in this file should be added/merged to the example.gramps which has the same purpose and is included with each release of Gramps, eg raise a feature request to merge the two files?<br />
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[[Category:Tutorial]]
Sam888 ([[User talk:Sam888|talk]]) 02:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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That's odd as the .gz file lists & downloads as 9kb on my phone & PC. I did something unusual for the hotlinks. (Maybe that is why you're seeing a zero byte file if you choose Download while right-clicking the link?) The links forward to the file management wiki page instead of being a download link for the file itself. (It took a bit of searching to discover how to correctly override the linking of the image too!)
 
  
Please note that the gzip (GNU zip) format is native to the .gpkg & .Gramps formats as written during backup in Gramps. Using the ZIP format would make it incompatible with Gramps.
 
  
Finally, I see the example.gramps and this file as being at cross-purposes & not suitable for merging.
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Example.gramps contains records VALID for actual genealogical use & real-world testing. (Since it is also used for unresolved bug reports & automated testing, changing this now 'standardized' Reference File might invalidate those key processes. Mods to the example.gramps probably ought to pass through a new 'standards' verification & approval.)
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Once the template content is cloned, Edit the page. Paste the raw '''[[:Category:Tutorials|Tutorials]]''' outline for your new '''[[:Category:How_do_I...|How Do I...]]''' article above the '''See also''' section. This "raw Tutorial outline" might be simply pasting in a copy of a useful thread from one of the Gramps maillists or the Discourse forum.
  
The Pseudo tree is specifically incompatible with real-world use. It is an abstraction model.<br />
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Bamaustin ([[User talk:Bamaustin|talk]]) 10:46, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Rollback on user manual ==
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Finding a ''[[Gramps_Glossary|Gramps Glossary]] term'' to link may be easier than choosing the best introductory section in the wiki.  
I'm rolling back several edits you made to the past user manual and the current user manual to nonexistent categories. I'll protect the older non-English user manuals from change. Please only edit the current user manual and if you notice that the old user manual can be edited, drop me a note, please. <br />
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  <small>&#91;&#91;Gramps_Glossary#active_person|Active Person]]
Sam888 ([[User talk:Sam888|talk]]) 02:48, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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  &#91;&#91;Gramps_Glossary#P|Primary Object]]</small>
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Glossary terms (like [[Gramps_Glossary#active_person|Active Person]] above) are normally lowercase and use an underscore between words. They have a brief description and may already have the introductory text and practical tutorial linked. You can fall back to the Letter index (like using '[[Gramps_Glossary#P|P]]' with [[Gramps_Glossary#P|Primary Object]] above) if you don't know the exact entry.
  
I'm sorry to see those rollbacks. The categories were already in use for other pages in those languages. These changes merely consolidated all (except 4 admin locked pages) non-English pages falling into the 'Documentation' category. It harmonized them into the subcategory listings for each language. This still left the obsolete manual pages cluttering the category but we've been discussing options for addressing that. (There is value in keeping the old versions on the wiki. Offloading them would break the 'Help' in legacy versions of Gramps. Also, some of the old documentation illustrates changes in approach & gives timeline context to evolving features.) Will follow-up in email.<br />
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Since most of these ''How do I...'' tutorials are likely to have been prompted by a MailList discussion, a set of example 'See also' link are included for reference.  
Bamaustin ([[User talk:Bamaustin|talk]]) 11:01, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 
  
==This an unnecessary redirect category page.==
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Pointing the ''maillist archived thread'' link to the original message that inspired the tutorial give proper credit for the idea &amp; reveals the background discussion.
This an unnecessary redirect category page.
 
  
The category "How do I" is an unreferenced category for "How do I..."
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Pointing another link to a good search phrase for the archive allows similar discussions to be explored.
  
Can we clean out unused categories to eliminate clutter in the Category index?
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https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CleanupEmptyCategories.php
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Once the tutorial Preview is satisfactory, save a revision of the document. Then clean out the virtual Copy&amp;Paste clipboard cluttering up your tutorial and save a final revision.  
  
:: According to "What links here" only one page does for the Czech(cs) language and I've changed that page to use the proper page.  The answer is yes to cleaning up, but please use the "What links here" link to determine that and make sure the linked pages point to the correct page etc.. Thanks for your edits Cheers<br />
 
Sam888 ([[User talk:Sam888|talk]]) 05:18, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 
  
==QueryGramplet==
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To remove the virtual Copy&amp;Paste clipboard, simply delete everything from the beginning of this section to the bottom of the document. It is all disposable.
I was attempting to use the [[QueryGramplet|Query Gramplet]] but could not find as it is [https://github.com/gramps-project/addons-source/blob/maintenance/gramps51/Query/Query.gpr.py Unstable and not listed] in the addon list. I ended up attempting to manually install it from the link on the [[:5.1_Addons]] page, should a note be added to its page about this? Haven't tested yet but did manage to install and take a screenshot. Wonder why it is not listed for download?  <br />
 
GulliblePangolin ([[User talk:GulliblePangolin|talk]]) 22:14, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 
  
:That's a good point. A 'Warn' would probably be appropriate. This Gramplet pre-dates the switchover to SQLite and there's been a resurgence in interest.
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If the Copy&amp;Paste clipboard is needed again, simply paste the following line at the end of the Edit box, Save a revision, &amp; edit again.(Previewing isn't enough... a revision must be saved.)
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<pre>  {{subst:Template:How_do_I}}</pre>
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Other wiki [[:Category:Templates|Templates]] can be used as virtual Copy&amp;Paste clipboards in the same way.
  
:Getting some more users (and bug reports) might lead to the Gramplet becoming more stable & useful.<br />
 
Bamaustin ([[User talk:Bamaustin|talk]]) 22:18, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 
  
:: Added the warning. Tried a query and get the following error:
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Stub, english (''default'')
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:: So it needs to be updated for gramps 5.1.x is my guess I'll see if any issues have been raised? <br />
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Stub, french
GulliblePangolin ([[User talk:GulliblePangolin|talk]]) 22:31, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::: Reported as {{bug|11671}} but a bit of sleuthing in the bug tracker shows that this gramplet has been abandoned by the original developer called Doug Blank, and was delisted by another developer.<br />
 
GulliblePangolin ([[User talk:GulliblePangolin|talk]]) 23:28, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 
  
==Extract Place Data from a Place Title==
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=== Embeddable Snippets (Subsection) ===
Can you help?
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Icons
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: {{icon|gram}} Dashboard
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: {{icon|peop}} People
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: {{icon|fami}} Family Families
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: {{icon|even}} Events
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: {{icon|plac}} Places
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:[[Template:Icon/doc|more of the standard icons]]
  
I was attempting to clarify what exactly "place title" is when it says " extract city, state/province and zip code information from a place title. "   eg: extract from where?   
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Also it has a ''Notes'' section that seems random and not integrated with the rest of the article? 
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[[Image:Gramps-logo.png|Logo]]
  
GulliblePangolin ([[User talk:GulliblePangolin|talk]]) 22:33, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
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*[[Screenshots|Screenshots]]
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====== Annotations of User Activities  (Level 4 Subsection) ======
  
I believe this tool was probably created to parse imported data. And the source program transferred a Place without an ID or structured Hierarchy... just a chunk of variable format text. It might even be from a vCard instead of another genealogy program.
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*<pre>Commands you type at the command line</pre>
  
We'll probably have to look at the code and hope they included comments about what deficiency inspired them to build the tool. 
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*''Filenames'' or <code>Filenames</code>
  
It is an early enough tool that it was built by Don.  The code indicates that there was a Place format change ... from a collated comma separated field into a distinct hierarchy form.
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*<tt>''Replaceable text''</tt>
  
[[User:Bamaustin|Bamaustin]] ([[User talk:Bamaustin|talk]]) 23:06, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
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*{{man label|Labels}} for buttons and other portions of the graphical interface
  
==Image links on Download page==
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Sorry reverted your last change as removing the link now causes people to visit the images page instead of keeping them in the section. Ok I believe I understand what you are referencing, you can paste the name of the image file to the end of the url string to get to its page eg https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/File:Windows_180x160.png Your usage on the keybindings page makes sense you would not need a section link. [[User:GulliblePangolin|GulliblePangolin]] ([[User talk:GulliblePangolin|talk]]) 22:13, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 
  
==Partially reverted your edit on FAQ==
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*Menu selections look like this: {{Man menu|Menu &#x27a1; Submenu &#x25B6; Menu Item}} (always pad unicode symbols like these arrows with spaces so that robot translators see recognizable words) Gramplet selection menus {{man button|&or;}} (''Down Arrowhead'' button)
Seems you [https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_5.1_Wiki_Manual_-_FAQ&diff=78255&oldid=78247 accidentally removed] the new sections added today for the FAQ Gramplet. [[User:GulliblePangolin|GulliblePangolin]] ([[User talk:GulliblePangolin|talk]]) 14:04, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
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* Pop-up menu down {{man button|&#x25BC;}} arrowhead, (triangle) button
==what's not included in an export ==
 
Hi, I've added a section for [[Gramps_5.1_Wiki_Manual_-_Manage_Family_Trees#What.27s_not_included:|What's not included]] when exported that is duplicated on three pages(import should mention it also!) and should probably be its own section in an appendix entry for advanced stuff ? always more stuff to do! --[[User:Sam888|Sam888]] ([[User talk:Sam888|talk]]) 04:37, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
Good deal. Converted them to templates. Figured that will help is keep the data in sync while the section evolves. We can subst the templates... if we get to that point.
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*{{man button|Buttons}}  you can click
  
[[User:Bamaustin|Bamaustin]] ([[User talk:Bamaustin|talk]]) 22:27, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
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*{{Man key press|CTRL|D}} see [[Gramps_{{man version}}_Wiki_Manual_-_Keybindings|Keybindings]] for a list of keyboard combinations used in Gramps.
  
:: That should cover it for now , thanks --[[User:Sam888|Sam888]] ([[User talk:Sam888|talk]]) 01:04, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
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* [https://www.reddit.com/r/gramps/comments/dhimif/psa_if_you_are_using_gramps_51x_or_greater/ PSA: If you are using Gramps 5.1.x or greater - Convert your databases to SQlite]  
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=[https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=FI:Gramps_5.0_Wiki_Manual_-_Command_Line&action=rollback&from=Bamaustin&token=bc276000868efdc564789e2bc9ac027062b6337e%2B%5C Reverted Edit to 5.0 user manual]=
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The 5.0 user manual is not the same as the [https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/FI:Gramps_5.1_Wiki_Manual_-_Command_Line 5.1 user manual]. [[User:Patsyblefebre|Patsy B Lefebre]] ([[User talk:Patsyblefebre|talk]])
  
Especially where it mentions:
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:Added the language templates to the 5.1 page but some other page redirects must be missing, because the [https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/Fi:Gramps_5.1_Wiki-k%C3%A4ytt%C3%B6ohje Finnish index page] does show the language name of "suomi" at the top of the page. [[User:Patsyblefebre|Patsy B Lefebre]] ([[User talk:Patsyblefebre|talk]]) 22:17, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
;Yes you need to upgrade first as in Gramps 5.0.x SQlite support was experimental and only for testing. Do not attempt to convert to SQlite using any of Gramps 5.0.x releases.
 
  
=when you are finished let me know=
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::Needed a REDIRECT from the English titled Finish "fi" page to the "FI" prefixed Finish page, then you need to edit the Finish page at least once for the language template to update and show "suomi", clear as mud! [[User:Daleathan|Daleathan]] ([[User talk:Daleathan|talk]]) 00:26, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Not interested in reverting your changes so please let me know!--[[User:Gioto|Gioto]] ([[User talk:Gioto|talk]]) 23:42, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 

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Reverted Edit to 5.0 user manual

The 5.0 user manual is not the same as the 5.1 user manual. Patsy B Lefebre (talk)

Added the language templates to the 5.1 page but some other page redirects must be missing, because the Finnish index page does show the language name of "suomi" at the top of the page. Patsy B Lefebre (talk) 22:17, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Needed a REDIRECT from the English titled Finish "fi" page to the "FI" prefixed Finish page, then you need to edit the Finish page at least once for the language template to update and show "suomi", clear as mud! Daleathan (talk) 00:26, 25 June 2022 (UTC)